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 Post subject: 7 August 2008: Buffalo, NY
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:44 pm 
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Did you attend this ZPZ show at "Thursdays At The Square" in Buffalo?

Dweezil and the band love reading your reviews.

Please do not post in this thread if you did not attend the show.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:57 am 
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I just got home from the Buffalo show. It was a great show and the crowd war really into it. Unfortunately, the weather did not cooperate, and they had to shut the concert down in the middle (right after King Kong) due to lightning. This is really too bad, since I think it really would have been a special night. Dweezil didn't even get a chance to say goodnight to the crowd.

Luckily for me and my son (10 years old--big Zappa fan) we arrived early and were treated to an entertaining sound check (at least I was able to hear St. Alfonzo's).


This is the second time I've ZPZ and I hope they come back to Buffalo soon. Ray sounded great. This is the first time I have heard him since Frank's years. He really belted out City of Tiny Lights and Bamboozled by Love. I am very sad that they didn't have a chance to sing Illinois Enema Bandit. I was really looking forward to that.

Thanks for a great--but too short concert. Come back soon


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:38 am 
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Excellence!!!!!!! frank would be proud!! my kids loved it they knew all the songs made me glad i listened to them with them dwezil does his papa proud every time he smiled made me feel like frank was there with us was so wound up looking forward to the rest of the show when somebody became scared of our great buffalo weather.(wait a minute it ll change)i guess its the best leave them wanting more. i personally hope it's very soon! i was hoping to hear pancake girl my daughter said it was a great tune maybe next time hurry back gl on the rest of the tour.


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 Post subject: ZplaysZ in Buffalo
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:50 am 
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Zappa Plays Zappa was fantastic! The show was brought to an end due to lightning. The stuff they played was off the graph . . . Great show! I was there for the sound check--that made the drive from PA worth it, but then I shook hands with Dweezil, he signed my shirt, and I got my picture taken with him! However, it does not end there. I then spoke to Scheila Gonzalez and had my photo taken with her! This band is the best band since The Best Band You Never Heard. Long live Frank's music through Dweezil. See you soon. Lovin' life. Nick


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Wow there was lightning in the sky and thunder from the stage! my 8th Zappa is Zappa whooops mean Zappa plays Zappa .... but really it is! nobody is playing anymore .... the band were sooo good tonite, tight, everyone smiling, Joe as always amazing reminded me of the last Bufallo or the Kitchener Show! Aaron still tempting gravity, though he looks like he's getting better at it, doing a hula dance with a terry cloth dress .... I won't mention what he did with the microphone .... but everyone was at their best, also was there for the sound check which was a real treat and made up for the shortened show. Did I mention I would have paid double for this show, even triple .... A bit of a trifecta for the brothers July fourth in Kitchener, July 5th in Ottawa and now August 7th in Bufallo really enjoyed the ZpZ trifecta I was watching Dweezil's finger during G-Spot ... just amazing. Ray (Brother) the best, top of his game again! Come back soon, We'll be there again, hopefully not wearing my Sears Poncho, it did pour during the show, the crowd were great, the setting was perfect. Oh and the price FREE! Hope you liked the Ottawa Pics, I few a few Bufallo shots now too!

See you guys again Soon

Phil and Pete AKA the OPA

Music is the best!

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I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it a lot! I didn't recognize too many of the songs because I'm a relatively new Zappa fan, but I still loved it! I'm also happy that in the article that was in written in the Buffalo News about it that the gave the names of most of the songs. Now I really want to get more of Frank's albums...


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 Post subject: thank you
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you guys are the best band on tour. It was great to meet most of you. It was a pleasure to tour with you. It's hard to find quality music these days, worthy of traveling show to show. You guys are AMAZING!!! You DVD is first rate, hope there will be another from this tour hint hint. :)
Won't be able to make it to peekskill, but will be looking forward to the fall shows. Try to make it somewhere around North Carolina for us. We want to make Ray a nice reversible hat and one for lil pete with lizards i'm on the lookout give us an e-mail with a mailing address. If anyone else wants one let us know.
thanks again,
sending much love & positive vibrations,
Jess & Crowley

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 Post subject: Ground ZPZ
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:58 pm 
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I’m none too pleased with Mother Nature at the moment. She hasn’t been my favorite for some time now given the soggy summer of 2008 she has provided thus far, but last evening was the last straw.

I’ve had the ZPZ, August 7th date circled on my calendar as the musical highlight of the summer since I saw the date first appear on the band’s website. Despite the weather, we’ve been treated to a wonderful variety of musical opportunities this summer, with much of it being free outdoor shows, but this concert was ground Z for me. Ground ZPZ, in fact.

I’m a relative newcomer to all of this, but my musical life has been so wildly enriched in the last two years by the music of Frank Zappa, thanks in full to Dweezil’s efforts, talents, dedication and vision. DZ and company should be extremely proud that they have achieved and are executing what their mission statement’s goals were presumably set out to be; Bringing back Frank’s music for the lifers, exposing it to those previously unaware and capturing the hearts and minds of younger generations to know the magnificence of this Zappa family. That magnificence can be credited to the creative and visionary mind of the founding father Frank himself. Aside from his obvious musical prowess and all things related to the creation, presentation, production and recorded representation, he must have been a consummate family man as well. It is evident in the dedication of his wife and children who lovingly preserve, protect and promote his memory, his body of work and his legacy. That would not happen if the man himself was not the type of human being to be a dedicated husband and father who nurtured his immediate family and instilled his love, support and ideals for the benefit of everyone.

It seems that the family as a whole has done a wonderful behind the scenes job over the years to oversee all of Franks recorded works and manage the packaging, presentation and promotion of that entity. But Dweezil had a vision beyond the vaulted canon, to take it directly to the people through live performance by assembling a killer ensemble of highly skilled craftsmen (and craftswoman) to precisely execute this highly complex and demanding material. Recorded music is wonderful, but the presentation of that material in a live format is what captures your heart and feeds your soul. To me, recorded works are simply a means to mentally transport myself back to that live experience where I stand rapt in awe of the incredible talent flowing from a concert stage to be absorbed by an adoring crowd. I believe one of Frank’s famous quotes was “Music is the best.” I’d like to augment that for my own preference to say that “Live music is the best.”

I greatly admire visionary people who are determined to achieve their goals. It takes hard work, long hours, discipline and dedication. Dweezil has employed and embraced all of these qualities in his quest to further his father’s vision. He obviously had talent as a young man who learned to shred guitars like one of his purported heroes from his youth, Eddie Van Halen. You have to be a monster talent to replicate that type of playing and do it justice. But it would seem to me that those exercises were merely training to cultivate the basic skills that would provide a platform for which to answer to a higher calling. Like taking calculus in a college curriculum. You may never actually use calculus in a practical sense in the rest of your life unless you become some sort of doctoral research scientist, but it helps to rewire and train your brain to think more analytically at a higher level, where you will ultimately apply those skills elsewhere. I think DZ’s undergraduate studies in the school of guitar shredder U, provided the foundation of skills necessary to tackle more complex feats.

He stated that he literally had to re-learn how to play the guitar, and woodshed for 2 years to approach the level of musicianship necessary to tackle a project of this complexity and enormity. THAT is ambition, inspiration, discipline and dedication! Kudos to DZ for digging in and keeping his nose to the grindstone. This is the family business, afterall, and business is good!

DZ has taken the torch and run with it, and he appears to be gaining momentum. I hope the trend continues. I also hope that as this all evolves that DZ and whomever he employs in this endeavor will begin to compose and create new Zappa material that is his own, and slowly incorporate it into the existing body of work.

I have such an admiration for DZ as a man, that I would like to see him carve out his own legacy that may be linked to that of his father, but also stands somewhat alone as his own. This is the type of music that needs to be out there. I have the utmost respect for Dweezil and the family for not allowing Frank’s work to be relegated to the archives and annals of history. This music needs to live, breath and be nurtured so that present and future generations will benefit from it’s greatness.

Last evening was my sixth ZPZ experience. I have the misfortune of never having the opportunity to see Frank. I was too young and his career largely predated my live concert going years. I love all types of music across many different and disparate genres but there are a select few artists who capture me completely and hold my high regard.

From the first moment I made the trek up the QEW to Toronto in 2006, I finally got it. I became an instant lifer. Why? Because I needed to witness it live to penetrate my thick skull. I’ve heard some of the recorded material previously, but for one reason or another, it never clicked. After my first ZPZ show, in not only clicked, but it exploded. It was like a megaton WMD reaching ground ZPZ in the middle of my brain. I got it. Radio played only what it perceived to fit their tiny little pop formats and only showcased the lightest of Frank’s material that had pop qualities. It took older brothers of friends of mine to get some exposure to more weighty Frank material containing more depth. That got my attention, but I was still not captivated. DZ and crew captivated me via their live presentation.

I stand here before you as the perfect example of what DZ set out to accomplish. I’m it. Thankfully, the ranks of people like me are swelling. That bodes well for the future of this music.

FZ and ZPZ are now esteemed members of my core musical family. My desert island essentials. Perhaps, part of how I loosely define myself, since music is such a large part of my life.

The impulsive child in me wants to run out right now and ravenously purchase any and all Frank Zappa recorded material that is presently out there. (moo-hoo-hoo-ha-ha-ha, as I devilishly wring my hands with a sinister smile) I want it all! But at 60 to 80 albums, that’s a daunting task, logistically and financially. The more mature side of me, who periodically gets brushed from my shoulder, says no. Do it slowly and methodically to maximize the appreciation of it all. I believe that one day, I will own it all, but I want to savor it slowly and digest it thoroughly. It will provide me with little nuggets of joy to look forward to as I acquire each and every item, one at a time. This will provide me with much more enjoyment going forward for years to come. My other “core artists” aren’t so productive anymore, and new releases are few and far between. I keep searching for newer bands to captivate me, and sometimes I think I end up wanting to like a band more than I actually do, out of a craving for something new, but at the end of the day, I’m only kidding myself and realize that what I thought might have potential, winds up leaving me flat. ZPZ was in the right place at the right time for me. Even though the material is not new, it is new to me. And that will do nicely for now.

So, last nights concert. What can I say, but Wow! I was extremely disappointed it was cut short due to weather and over cautious venue management. I stood in the pouring rain and got soaked to the bone for the opening act that, for me, was more painful than the weather. I didn’t think the squall that descended upon the middle of the ZPZ show was any worse. I know the remainder of the concert would have been amazing and I was really psyched to see what would be presented as an encore. Alas, it was not meant to be. I’m left wanting more. Much more. I would have stayed and endured the elements for as long as the band wanted to play. What I did witness, was extraordinary. This was a hot show, on a soggy evening. Everyone was in fine form, and as they say in the Allman’s world, they were “hittin’ the note!”

I’m sure that bands have little to say about shows that promoters assemble, but to me opening bands are a huge waste of time. Rarely do I hear a band that fits the bill and complements the main act. It does happen on occasion, but rarely. Yes, it’s a good means of becoming exposed to something new, and perhaps that’s how many newer and younger bands begin to build their own careers, but so many times the openers are just bloody awful. Last night for me was one of those occasions.

My favorite format is “An Evening With…” I’ve paid the money, (not last night since it was free), to see the main act perform. I want to maximize that.

Some of my other core bands, when they do present such an event, play two sets. The first set of about an hour, a half hour or so intermission, and then a 1-1/2 to two hour second set. I love that format. The first set warms up both band and audience, the intermission provides the audience the opportunity to party a bit, socialize a bit and discuss with great anticipation what the second set might be composed of. THAT makes a great evening. I think it also provides the band an opportunity to come out blazing to round out the show. Kind of like half-time at a sporting event. It allows everyone on and off stage to catch their breath, regroup and really get down to business to complete the evening.

I always thought Bill Graham’s vision was pretty cool where he’d try to expose folks to different music they may not otherwise experience, like having Miles Davis open up a Garteful Dead show to expose the young hippy kids to some serious jazz. That was visionary on his part. He was a promoter who wanted to make money but he also loved music and wanted to present it in the best way possible. If someone like that on the business side of things were out there, I would be more amenable to opening acts. Sadly, there isn’t. So, I’d much prefer “An Evening With……” to any other format.

Last nights show, albeit brief, was still a highlight for me this summer. The band sounded great. It was interesting to watch from my tiny patch of muddy real estate, the band and the developing scene behind the band. A slow moving frontal weather system inched across the sky behind the stage while the band poured out their souls onto the crowd. And the crowd. Where did they come from? It was very sparse earlier in the evening and I was disappointed that it may have been a poor showing for the band. But as ZPZ filed onto the stage the umbrella toting, rain-slickered throng packed the bowl beneath the platform. I thought, “Cool!” Glistening wet fans bobbed to the music as ominous, dark, foreboding and immense thunder heads slowly drifted behind the city-scape of buildings. It didn’t produce any rain at first, and I secretly hoped they would roll by without precipitating. I felt like a tense potential victim in Jurassic park quietly hiding in the undergrowth, patiently waiting and watching as the enormous tyranasourus sloooooowly lumbered past, hoping it wouldn’t see me and just continue on past and out of danger. Waiting, watching, waiting watching, hoping, waiting watching. Then BANG! The monster roared and sent the victims scattering for cover.

I would have endured and rode it out, but venue management had other ideas. Sigh.

I’m not a knowledgeable enough fan to comment on song titles, but I loved the evenings’ selected setlist. City of Tiny Lights. Uncle Remus, Peaches En Regalia, Echidna’s Arf, G-spot Tornado……the Tri-fecta!!! Loved it!

DZ’s guitar playing and tone were killer. Sheila is just a whirlwind of energy back there doing her thing on keys and sax. Pete on bass……a mutha fu___. Jamie on guitar, outstanding. Ray White and his booming, soulful voice. Joe on drums and vocals. Billy on percussion and vibes. Aaron on keys. Did I forget anyone? Damn! All stellar.

Best half a concert I’ve seen this year. Hey…..it exceeded many full concerts I’ve seen this year.

In my hope of hopes, DZ & Co. swing back through Buffalo on a Fall tour. Please come back!

Allow me to write the marquee:

Shea’s Buffalo Theater presents: “An Evening with Zappa Plays Zappa!”


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 Post subject: Dweezil and his band hits the trifecta in Buffalo
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:15 am 
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As we drove down the thurway from Rochester, anticipating the concert, who know Buffalo would be so wet? But the show was great. The band was on as always; this is the third time the wife, son and I have seen Dweezil in Buffalo. We felt a sense of Frank around us, it was pleasant. Can't wait to see the show again, and he played a hagstrom guitar that I believe Frank used, which was nice. Everyone's solos at the end were perfect. Ray's vocals were spot on. The friendship and respect shows on stage between Dweezil, the band, and his fans. Thank you Gail & Frank, you have the best son.

Joe, Rose, and Sam. Rochester NY.


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 Post subject: 3rd ZPZ show this week - short but the BEST
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:09 am 
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I saw the Northampton show on Sunday and the Hampton Beach show on Wednesday. They were both fantastic, but Buffalo blew them away! :D Sadly cut short toward the end of King Kong due to heavy rain :cry: I have seen this band 6 times now and they are better every time - proof was seeing them 3 times in one week. 1st show in Northampton they were solid, but the audience was not very enthusiastic. Hampton on weds - ZPZ delivered and audience did as well, but the venue acoustics and seating were not the best. Buffalo was perfect!! Great performance (they nailed it on everything - Purple Lagoon, City of Tiny Lights, TriFecta, Fresh Flakes, Bamboozled by Love) The audience was awesome - energetic and totally engaged. And how could you beat the venue?? An outdoor free concert in the park ( I guess a lightning barrier could've improved on the venue, but other than that.... :roll: ) The opportunity to hear ZPZ outside in the open air was well worth the 8 hour drive from Hampton Beach NH (some of it in the torrential dounpour that finally reached Buffalo and ended the show later the night) The sound was so clear and rich. Even though it was only an hour, it couldn't be beat!! I just bought my tix to the Halloween show in NYC - CAN'T WAIT!!!! I noticed there's no booking for Providence this year - hopefully you're still planning to book it DZ :wink: pleasepleaseplease....
ZPZ - thanks for coming out each year. MUSIC IS THE BEST (Frank's that is....) I couldn't have experienced it live without you! THANKS :D


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 Post subject: Great show!!!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:27 pm 
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When I saw Zappa Plays Zappa on the summer schedule for Thursdays at the Square, it was one of shows I really wanted to see. First, I am not an expert on Frank Zappa's music. I might recognize a song if I heard it on the radio, but I only heard him at college in the '80's. The rock stations I listen to do not normally play his music. Before I left for the show, a co-worker also expressed excitement, but claimed Dweezil's guitar playing would not live up to his father's. I cannot attest to that point, but I was very impressed with what I heard. Dweezil can play!!!

I absolutely loved the show! The performances were hot, the crowd was rowdy...just a great experience. Ray White was commanding on vocals. For being a free downtown concert, they were an A-list act. I got a big kick out of the xylophone solo during everyone's individual spotlight. Not something you see at your typical concert. Everyone got their chance, except Dweezil, but then it started to rain.

When I saw the lightening off in the distance, I was hoping it would not end the show. But then it started to pour and flash. Dweezil announced that they were asked to stop so everyone could head for safety. He had hoped they could come out later when the storm passed, but the call was made to end the show after about 5 or 10 minutes. Still, we got an hour and 15 minutes out of a probable 2 hour show. I looked at the tour dates for another chance to see the entire show, but I do not see any dates in this area anytime soon.

I will have to look for a posting of the set list for the Buffalo show. I loved what I heard, but I could not put a name to any of the songs performed.


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Wow what a day.. As some of the good folks above I was also treated to the sound check. I was amazed that DZ stood on the stage alone and ran through his scales for what seemed to be about an hour. He's a pro and still has great practice ethic....

I had the the pleasure of meeting Joe and spending the evening watching the show with his dad and mom who are our neighbors from west of us in Erie PA.

it was nice to meet Dweezil.. And when I spoke to him the only words to come out of my mouth were "Hey Dweezil hows your golf game" go figure.

Great show the best of the summer..............


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