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 Post subject: 27 July 2007: Detroit, MI
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:45 pm 
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Did you attend this ZPZ show at The Meadow Brook Music Festival?


Dweezil and the band would love to read your reviews!


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 Post subject: songs to add
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:04 pm 
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Guys You have to add alien orifice and or ancient armaments, dweezil really check these tunes out. see you soo in new york, music is the best and remember theres a big difference between kneeling down and bending over, theres still time to learn these tunes and how is ray working out, can,t wait to hear and see him.


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 Post subject: Re: songs to add
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:51 pm 
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murvon wrote:
Guys You have to add alien orifice and or ancient armaments, dweezil really check these tunes out. see you soo in new york, music is the best and remember theres a big difference between kneeling down and bending over, theres still time to learn these tunes and how is ray working out, can,t wait to hear and see him.


OK, murvon, we get it, already. You want to hear Alien Orifice and/or Ancient Armaments (you're posted in every damn concert review thread since the tour started).

If they don't play those tunes, will you consider that a personal affront by Dweezil?


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 Post subject: review -- probably will be too long...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:13 pm 
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My wife and I attended the ZPZ show at Meadowbrook Music Festival last night, July 27th, 2007. Sat 2 seats away from Ray White's brother, as a matter of fact, and had a nice chat with him before the show began.

To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, I graduated from high school 3 months before Dweezil was born. That makes me a Zappa fan from Freak Out, forward. And it also suggests that, on the whole, I'm most fond of his output from Freak Out through Uncle Meat. I did, however, follow his career to the end, even though I have to admit being only a sporadic comsumer after (approximately) Overnite Sensation/Apostrophe. That was at a time when jobs & family seem to have gotten in the way and other interests -- like computers -- developed, and I only occasionally purchased new Zappa releases after that. I offer this as explanation for why there were a few songs performed with which I only had passing familiarity, or hadn't heard at all.

Anyway -- on with the show, which opened with My Guitar (Wants to Kill Your Mama). Can't say that this would have been my request for an 'older' song, but it's a good song, nevertheless. And it sounded like I would have wanted it to sound like, like live performances I've heard from Frank's band, recorded many moons ago.

At this point, I'll make a general comment about all the Zappa material I heard interpreted last night: ZPZ is a band of crackerjack musicians who captured the spirit and essence -- the nuances -- of Frank's music in a most satisfying way. If not precisely note-for-note, they were soundalikes to the casual listener -- close enough that it doesn't matter that you're listening to Dweezil's or Ray White's vocal, rather than Frank's or Ray Collins'. The honks and squeaks are in the right places, as are the snarly, bent guitar double stops. If you're not one to listen to a track repeatedly through headphones, trying to pick out all the subtleties of the arrangement, you'd probably think that these were dead-on, perfect. And they were very, very close. Often times, there's one little part buried deep within a track, that makes the whole thing for me. That's what I listened for last night, and, on the whole, was able to discern. Dweezil's crew have done their homework, and have squeezed an amazing amount of sonic diversity out of 8 players. Bravo, lady & gentlemen! :!:

I'm an emotional guy, and music is one of the things that really moves me deeply. So it's no surprise that, as the crowd was enthusiastically enjoying My Guitar, I found myself fighting back emotions, hearkening me back to a different time. Fortunately, it was a still, muggy night, and I could pass off the moisture on my cheeks as sweat running down from my forehead. It's kind of hard to explain a 56 year-old man with tears in his eyes when everybody else is smiling & grooving to the music...

There would be more intense moments, as a couple of songs in, Dweez commented that they were going to play something for us older fans, something that hadn't been heard performed live in quite some time, at least prior to the present tour. This turned out to be Brown Shoes Don't Make It. It was there in its entirety, with all the subsections, surf music interludes, and "If she were my daughter, I'd..." musings. And it even included with America Drinks and Goes Home to finish it off with those wonderful 'peanut butter & baloney sandwiches'. Coincidentally, this is one of those areas I alluded to earlier, where one insignificant detail in a song is really important for me. In this case, it's the final piano chord, which was, I believe, played by session musician Frankie Capp on the original Absolutely Free recording. I didn't sound quite right to me last night. It may have been structurally-correct, but perhaps it sounded different to me because there additional instruments adding timbre to it. A prig's detail, to be sure, but hey -- I paid for my ticket! :P

It was a treat to see the band 'backing up' Frank, as he appeared in two full songs -- one of which was Cosmik Debris -- and part of a third on the video screen behind the drum kit. This was very successfully accomplished and the band stayed closely in sync as they played with video. It was fun watching Dweezil's facial expressions during these performances.

Anway, if anybody's still reading, a few general comments:

- Dweezil does a passable job with Frank's vocals. I don't think his voice is as strong or resonant as Frank's was. (At times, I thought he mic should have been brought up a bit more in the mix.) There is some evidence of heredity at work, though, and I was very satisfied. I'm not suggesting that it's his job to BE Frank Zappa, and it's by no means a criticism. It's a comment, as if I were talking to my best friend, describing the show.

Guitar-wise, I think he's done a terrific job emulating the elder Zappa's style and tone, particularly the mid-range bite & razor-sharp attack that characterized Frank's soloing. My impression is that Frank may have used a wah a little more than Dweezil does, but that's more picking nits, and I could be wrong, anyway. Dweez is an extraordinary guitarist in his own right, and I'm guessing that there were more-or-less equal parts of him and Frank in his solos.

In all, I applaud what he's trying to do. It would be easy to be a cynic and say that he's touring on his father's reputation to make $. But I don't think that at all. I think he's doing this for all the right reasons -- to keep the musical of Frank Zappa alive and to introduce it to subsequent generations. Dweez seems to be a likable, humble guy who is justifiably proud of his heritage and is pleased to honor Frank and keep his memory alive in this way. We should all be so lucky to have devotion like that from our sons.

- While all the band members are important and have much to contribute, I'd single out Scheila Gonzalez for comment. She adds a much-needed occasional female voice, and handles a number of woodwind instruments that are integral to the material. She's an vital part of this machine, and appeared to have as much fun making the music as we had in listening to it.

- I'd say similar things about Aaron Arntz, who was mostly hidden, visually, but often apparent, aurally, from my point of view. He was responsible for miscellaneous keys, trumpet and (I think) the occasional deep-pitched vocal, which would be conspicuous by its absence in several areas, were he not there to provide it.

- Frank Zappa music sans marimba just wouldn't sound right, and Billy Hulting did an admirable job wielding the double mallets, gong, and other miscellaneous percussion. The marimba was another area which I felt could have benefited by being brought up a bit in the mix.

- Ray White. All I can say is 'Wow'! What a great voice this guy has! He also has a wonderful smile & stage presence and seemed to enjoy being there, entertaining us.

I don't mean to slight the others whose names I haven't mentioned. They all did a great job on some very challenging charts. I've just singled out what I found my eyes and ears most attracted to last night.

As I think I recall reading on a FZ album, many years ago: "They are all musicians."

Good luck on the rest of the tour -- see you next year!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:20 pm 
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THIS SHOW WAS AWESOME!!!


The autographs and the guitar pick from Pete
made Austins' [grandson] first concert even more
special.

Dweezil you have gone far beyond class act

Thank you so much for keeping Franks music alive.


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 Post subject: setlist?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:10 pm 
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Hi. I love FZ's music but don't know all the songs. Can anyone post a setlist for Meadowbrook?
I really liked the song just before "dumb all over" but I don't know what it was.
I loved Uncle Remus, San Ber'dino, and Cosmik Debris.
Thanks for the help. Peace, Jim.


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Just saw the show last night and it was incredible. Great venue, great sound, it will be hard to beat that show for a concert experience for a long time. Everyone was fantastic. I knew a lot of songs but does anyone out there have a SET LIST for meadowbrook. Thanx


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 Post subject: super
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:45 pm 
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I hope d.zappa reads these.
i just wanted to ask him what his dad thought about him being in that movie pretty in pink.

excellent show
my wife and i are going every year from now on!


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The show last night was awesome. The weather was a little sticky at first, but it turned out to be a perfect night.

My husband is a long time Frank Zappa fan so I have heard much of his music. We loved hearing Joe's Garage, and I was thrilled to hear them do San Ber'dino sine it is one of my favorites. In the 70's we had a bar in our town called The Palomino, so the first time I heard it, I loved it.

I just wanted to say that it really seemed Dweezil was humbled by all the emotion in the place. It was nice to see such a great musician appear in awe of the praise the band was receiving. We thought he did a great job with all the music and the videos. I'm sure Frank is very proud!

One really cool thing was the secret "word"/sentence. Dweezel asked a 10 year-old girl in the audience for a sentence. She said, "I eat apples" and from there, Ray White composed a song about Adam and Eve, and apples. It was truly awesome!

Thanks so much for this opportunity. We will definately be back next year.

Bren


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 Post subject: Meadowbrook
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:22 pm 
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Such a great show, we were right in front of Sheila and she was fantastic, as was the rest of the band. Only crit was I've seen on this board that other shows had as many as 5 videos with Frank (esp. Black Napkins) But what a treat,,, Uncle Remus, Wild LOve, Yo Mama. Great stuff and Brown Shoes, America Drinks..just fantastic. Please do this tour again and I'll bring 20 sorry bastards that regret not being there. They have to listen to me extol the virtues for the next year. Thanx Dweezil!


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 Post subject: ZPZ @ Meadow Brook
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:45 pm 
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I thought the show was great. I flew in from FLA for my 30th high
school reunion and when I saw ZPZ was in town, I knew I had to go. The
band was tight and I thought one of the best things about the show was
Sheila. I sat row 2 right in front of her. She was just awesome. I
liked the little solo she did on the soprano sax during Dupree's
Paradise. She reminds me of Ruth Underwood from the mid seventies
(although obviously Ruth played percussion). Highlights of the show
for me were Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy, Uncle Remus, and Willie the
Pimp. I think I had an out of body experience during the guitar solo
on Willie the Pimp! It does not get better than that. I saw the band
last year at The Hard Rock Café in Orlando and they were awesome.
Overall, I think this tour was great, but last year was phenomenal. I
am not sure what the reason is. Maybe it was the song selection, or
maybe it was the guest band members (Napoleon Murphy Brock, Steve Vai,
Terry Bozzio). I love all Franks's bands, but my favorite is the
Duke-Brock Progressive rock type era. Maybe it is because last year I
had no preconceived notion of what to expect and this year I did.
Having said that, I have to say putting Sheila out front was a great
move. She rocks in every sense of the word. She provided so many of
those little sounds and attitude that makes Frank's music so enjoyable
and fun to study. Did I mention I think Sheila rocks? Anyway, it was a
great time and Dweezil is doing a great service to history by
preserving and promoting, if I may say without sounding crude, the
Stravinsky of our time. I have heard a couple of people say "Yeah, but
he isn't his dad!" To which I reply that is like going to see a
performance of Mozart and saying "Yeah, but it ain't Wolfgang!" Who
cares? Thanks Dweezil, I love you. I saw Frank 5 times and you really
capture both his spirit and his music, so thanks again. Remember: The
crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

Set list:

Intro
My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama
Echidna's Arf
Son of Suzy Creamcheese
Brown Shoes Don't Make It
America Drinks and Goes Home
City of Tiny Lights (enter Ray White)
Carolina Hard Core Ecstasy
Cheepnis
Advance Romance
Pygmy Twylyte
Dumb All Over
What's New in Baltimore
Dupree's Paradise (Band Solos including Ray White's I Eat Apples the
secret song title of the night to replace the "secret word")
Uncle Remus
Willie the Pimp
Joe's Garage (three fuckin' great songs in a row! I would have liked
to have heard Joe's Garage followed by Catholic Girls)
Wind Up Workin' in a Gas Station
San Ber'dino
The Illinois Enema Bandit
Wild Love
Yo' Mama

Encore:
G-Spot Tornado
Cosmik Debris
Muffin Man


PS Note: no Black Napkins and no Montana : (


Peace,

?mark


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My wife and i saw this show in detroit, and loved it. a wonderful experience, and i hope to have a chance to see it again sometime. I got to see FZ twice in the mid-seventies, and want to thank Dweezil for carrying on this work.

thanx to all involved.


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 Post subject: Right on with the setlist
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:11 pm 
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Once again, began promptly at 8:00, with the first thing to really stand out to me being the very articulate guitar duel b/t DZ and Ray during Advance Romance. DZ really hit the spot with his soloing in Illinois Enema Bandit, but just like I've said about all the shows, the true highlight was Dupree's Paradise. It started with Shiela on the flute, Billy doing vocal percussion to On the Bus, Joe, then Joe and Billy stirring up some rhythmic madness, then Pete joined in on the fun, followed by Shiela and Aaron and Jamie all throwing their hats into the ring, Aaron was amazing during the Drowning Witch vamp, and once again Jamie showed that he is not to be overlooked by playing a mind blowing solo over the Heavy Duty Judy vamp, I was very psyched to hear the ultra-talented Shiela getting a chance to take on the Packard Goose vamp, and then of course Ray finished it off with "I eat apples". The main body of the show ended at 10:25, and they encored until 10:45. I'd have to say all around, the best of the 5 shows I went to, and it certainly helped that the venue is very nice, and the crowd is super into it. Three shows in my home state of Ohio, and they were the weakest 3. A little disheartening to be honest :( .


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 Post subject: The Meadow Brook Music Festival
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All I can say is this show kicked ASS.
Thank you DZ . :D


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Now that I've had a chance to recoup from the busy weekend I'll give as much as a detailed review as I can song by song.....

Intro> My Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama -
Nice way to start off. They played the Weasils Ripped My Flesh arrangement including the deranged solo and bridge. Extremely well done and awesome way to kick off the evening.

Echidna's Arf -
Much like last year the band performed this perfectly. Way to nail it Dweezil & co.

Suzy Cream Cheese>Brown Shoes>America Drinks -
Sheila sang lead vocals on Suzy and did a splendid job plus came out in a cocktail dress and wig while serving fake martini's during America Drinks to the bandmembers. A fun moment. They performed Brown shoes perfectly. Outstanding.

City Of Tiny Lights -
They kicked into the intro and brought up Ray White. That guy still sings as great as ever. Great solo from Dweezil as well.

Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy -
Perfect vocal harmonies and another great solo from Dweezil.

Cheepnis -
It was great to hear Ray White's vocal approach to this song. By this point I was blown away.

Advance Romance -
Listening to the YCDTOSA vol. 3 version on the way to the concert showed that Ray White can belt the vocals out on this one just as great as ever. Another great solo from Dweezil. At this point and perhaps during COTL I was thinking of how great a drummer Joe Travers is and would love to see him let loose a little more during the solos. He kept the backbone nice and solid but would love to see him show off his chops during these segments. Seen him do it with Keneally many times and know this guy can change up the beat and play monstrous rolls as well as the best of them. Maybe he's holding back a little but by no means does he underplay either.

Pygmy Twilight -
This one like Cheepnis was cool to see Ray Whites approach to the lead vocals. Loved it.

Dumb All Over -
The first video accompaniment of the night. I thought this was a cool idea and my favorite moment utilizing the video screens. Would have loved the guitar solo outro>Mudd Club but was fun none-the-less.

Whats New In Baltimore? -
Absolutely amazing. Anyone who has yet to see them on this tour will be blown away by their rendition. A personal highlight for me.

Dupree's Paradise -
This was a great vehicle to show off the skills of the band members. Everyone played great and the hand signals were fun on this but I'll just comment on Jamie Kime's guitar solo. It was great to see this guy show his chops. He kind of took the backseat last year behind Steve Vai and Dweezil but man, this guy can rip it up. Would love to see him get more solos throughout the show. I'd love to hear his own stuff sometime.

Uncle Remus -
When the piano intro started this song off I was ecstatic. Excellent job all around.

Willie The Pimp -
Nicely performed and close to the Hot Rats arrangement except with Ray Whites vocals instead of Beefhearts. All around fun.

Joe's Garage -
This is the point where it would have been great to see Ike aboard, but they performed it well regardless. Perhaps someday a compromise and consensus can be reached but I'll leave that debate for others. Not my place to comment on it one way or the other and am glad that I can experience a band of this caliber performing my favorite music. JG was well performed and lots of fun to hear.

Wind Up Working In A Gas Station -
This reminded me of the Bianca version from YCDTOSA vol. 6 complete with Sheila's "pumpin' the gas every night" back up vocals.

San Berdino -
Another fun song. This and the previous 2 songs were sing-a-longs by the people sitting around me.

Illinois Enema Bandit -
Ahhh yes. Ray White. Man that guy can belt it out. I think this is the point where Dweezil and Ray traded solos back and forth. Lots of fun. Ray took a break until the encores after this.

Wild Love>Yo Mama -
This was another highlight for me. Excellent solo from Dweezil. Simply amazing.

Encore

Cosmic Debris -
The next video accompaniment. The footage showed Frank making fun of the white guy in the front row who could'nt dance. Once again I realize that the videos are many peoples favorite moments and they are tastefully done but it started to seem to come off a little as a novelty to me for some reason. Still fun though. I'd love to have a copy of wherever that footage is from on DVD.

G Spot Tornado -
Simply amazing. This was absolutely phenominal and what sets them apart from everyone else out there performing this music. I hope they tape shows from this tour for future release for sake of this song alone.

Muffin Man -
The final song of the evening and final video accompaniment left me feeling a multitude of emotions. It left me wishing I was going to a few more shows on this tour but as I expressed in a previous post, having seen this footage more times than I would ever be able to count, would have liked to see something unreleased. Baby Snakes is amazing on it's own and for anybody who has'nt seen this movie before, the Camarillo Brillo>Muffin Man will floor you. Especially the solo.

To sum the whole experience up I'll say that I wish I could see a few more shows on this tour. Maybe next year they can do a 2 night stand at Meadowbrook. A beautiful outdoor venue and a perfect summer evening.


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